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    January 19, 2011

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    Jan Jaap Nieuwenhuis

    Dear Ryan, first of all thanks for your interesting blog. I often read it, but normally don't comment. However as a designer in a ship design office I feel obliged to respond to this one. I do agree that some of the actors in the shipping/shipbuilding industry are conservative and hard to convince to implement innovations, but often for very good reasons, as the risks in shipping can be enormous (not only financially, but also with respect to people's lives,the environment, etc.) or because the "innovations" simply don't work. However more and more innovations are implemented, but often remain unnoticed except for the "in crowd". Ship designers perhaps have to put more effort in showing the innovative aspects of new designs, as for a lot of people all the ships are about the same, because they almost all look the same. I don't know about Alex's innovation, but you could give him my email address. I can't promise anything but I could take a look at it. Keep up the good work!

    Ryan

    A thoughtful comment, Jan. Thanks. I suppose I feel particular empathy for this designer because, as a creative, I also struggle sometimes to sell in big ideas to conservative businessmen. I agree with you that it boils down to a communications problem often; we can't blame the audience - we just need to get better at telling them what we're imagining. I'll give Alex your email.

    Steve Bain

    Please give Alex my email Ryan. I pride myself on being open to new ideas. Thanks.

    Alex Vari

    Dear Ryan,
    Thanks for posting my e-mail and the obvious support for us innovators.
    So far I've had three promising approaches.
    I am in communication with all of them and it remains to be seen how each will go within their own organisations in pushing a typical innovative project approach from an innovator.
    They are now caught in the usual problem of trying to convince their managments to take the first step in a strange direction from a strange person who is even reluctant (for some reason) to fully disclose what his idea is. If it was from a known associate, with a proven business plan and a proven business record the approach would be straight forward. A cost benefit analysis will do the trick.
    Innovation rarely fits into such a neat bundle. Even so called R & D monies always come with strings attached requiring a stringent cost benefit analysis. They often resemble a loan agreement with the "lender" looking for assurances that he will not loose his money.
    Without a conscious decision that takes into account the (initial) obvious weakness of all innovative projects, with all of its inherrent risks, innovative projects will rarely see the light of day.
    Thanks again for your support and I will keep you informed.
    Regards
    Alex Vari

    Alex Vari

    Dear Ryan,
    Attached is a copy of my e-mail to one of the three respondents to my e-mail.
    One down, two to go.

    Dear Jan,
    Thank you for your reply and obvious honesty regarding how you see the current position regarding the protection of new ideas within the marine industry.
    It very closely resembles my own evaluation and it is good to hear it confirmed, again, from someone who is directly involved.
    As you are aware I have been looking for someone to partner with in developing my idea for some years now. My search up until relatively recently has been restricted to within the marine design/building industries. What has amazed me is that the industry itself has not found a way around these problems. This current situation has in all probability resulted in its missing out on opportunities for change
    and improvement.
    While this in itself can be dismissed by the industry as "that's just the way things are" and now lets just get on with business as usual. The crucial importance of efficient marine transportation for humanity as a whole is conveniently overlooked.
    Every global industrial revolution has been underpinned by a leap forward in transportation. (Not merely by its incremental improvement.)Our ability to move the resources of this planet around the globe has been pivotal in the evolution of mankind. Innovation in transportation has always sparked off these great changes. (I would have liked to have been around to see the changes when man invented the wheel.)
    In the end, history will not judge kindly the marine design/building industry. This lack of virility and interest in its own development and placid acceptance and co operation in maintaining the basic status quo. It should take a look at the IT industry and the way it is evolving and re inventing itself.
    The exception may perhaps be in the area of sailing. Here we have seen some innovative changes. I feel that the reason for this is that we are talking about big toys for big boys - and big boys have always found ways of getting money for their big toys.
    Its a pity that some of these adventurous monies have failed to find their way into a perhaps a more worthy direction.
    I will now get of my soap box, take another tablet, and get on with my quest.
    Thank you for your offer to look at my idea.
    I will however keep looking for someone who is able to proceed with the construction of a prototype and perhaps be in a better position to protect the IP.
    I will try and keep you up to date.

    Regards

    Alex Vari

    Alex Vari

    Just to keep you all interested and up to date on any developments.
    Some time ago the suggestion was made to me to approach DARPA who I was told may have an interest in the development of a fast marine craft.
    For those who may not be aware - The Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) is an agency of the United States Department of Defense responsible for the development of new technology for use by the military.
    Yesterday I received a reply to my general approach to see if they were interested in commencing discussions on this subject of a high speed marine vehicle.
    I quote their reply as it very clearly encapsulates the problem most organisations seem to have when it comes to innovation - especially when it comes for an unfamiliar direction.
    "I encourage you to submit future proposals in response to advertised requirements in lieu of submitting unsolicited proposals."
    I will now wait for their posting of a requirement for an untried, innovative marine hull design.
    However, should I miss such a request sometime in the future, or perhaps I missed one some time ago, would any reader please let me know.
    In all fairness, there are clear and detailed provisions regarding procedures for "unsolicited proposals". It is clear however that these are designed to be from established, credentialled organisation for products that have already been proven and costed.
    The concept that there should perhaps be an investment or involvement in an untried and yet to be proven product does not appear to be contemplated or provided for in the procedures.
    But am I missing a very important point? Perhaps there are so many of these type of "crazy" ideas floating around that no one has the time or could reasonably be expected to look at them all - until they are proven of course at which time we will give them careful consideration.
    But have I now gone in full circle ? Who is this well funded and qualified person/organisation who will take this first step to see if the concept is viable, keep the inventor in the loop and perhaps share with him the possible financial benefits ?
    I will keep looking and let you all know when I find out - as I am sure many of you out there would also like to know.
    Regards

    Alex Vari


    Alex Vari

    Dear Ryan,
    Just an update. No..... I have not given up nor has there been an approach from an adventorous backer. Its business as usual. Looking for my needle in the haystacks.
    Had entered a competition for Innovative concepts. From a National (Australian) competition the concept of an "efficient fast hull design" the concept was narrowed down to 100 finalists. This concept was rated as the 47th. Not bad I thought. At least some people think the idea has merit.
    Contacted a firm priding itself as a supporter of innovation within the marine industry. They even hold an annual competition looking for these type of concepts. The winner receives a monetary prize.
    No mention of collaborating with the designer. The idea of getting behind the concept and offering their own considerable resources, technical, financial and otherwise, to assist the winner does not appear to be on the agenda.
    The fostering of innovative concepts, delicate and fragile as they are during their early stages is just too difficult for most organisations. They just do not stand up to the usual harsh, hard nosed business scrutiny required of most risky business ventures.
    I was invited to submit an entry next year.
    I'm still looking.

    Regards

    Alex Vari

    Alex vari

    Perhaps for all those who have been following these exchanges a long overdue update.

    There have been no developments ion my quest on any level. I have not managed to unearth any further interest in my project.

    One aspect is perhaps worth mentioning. The suggestion has been made in the past that my concept should be patented.

    For now what seems like a long time ago I did patent a device for the deep watering of trees and plants. Like now, I was not then in a position to bring the product to market. More importantly, I failed to get support for its development even having a patent. This in spite approaching all of the usual suspects who I felt would have an interest in such a product.

    The product has now found its way onto the market shelves and is being widely distributed.

    It has confirmed my suspicion that patenting an idea before ensuring your ability to take the product to the market place is perhaps a bad move.

    While it may slow down getting the necessary support for its development it may be worth the wait in the long run.

    Still cruising and looking for the opportunity.

    Regards

    Alex Vari

    adi

    now i understand ... technological advances

    abercrombie polo

    Un comentario reflexivo, Gracias de enero. Supongo que sentir empatía particular por este diseñador, ya que, como creativo, también luchan a veces, para vender en grandes ideas a los empresarios conservadores. Estoy de acuerdo con usted en que todo se reduce a un problema de comunicación a menudo, no podemos culpar a la audiencia - sólo tenemos que mejorar en decirles lo que estamos imaginando. Voy a dar Alex su correo electrónico.

    Alex Vari

    Dear abercrombie polo, I had Google translate your contribution. I have taken you comment on board and it lines up with Ryans January comment about changing the message if the audience fails to "get it". Recently someone pointed out a comment by a Mr.Machiavelli "If you want to change the world, prepare to face the full force of the reaction against you from those that have the most to loose." While as yet I have not had to face any "force" I have experienced efforts to ignore and at times ridicule my ideas because of my lack of credentials in this field. Yes, I will change the world of marine hull design as it is long overdue for a major overhaul of its long accepted limitations. More powerful engines and exotic light weight materials are all signs of a lack of any imaginative solutions to a long existing set of problems.
    I will find a way sooner or later.
    Alex Vari

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